Talk:2010 Summer Youth Olympics
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Medal table
[edit]Recently there have been a number of edits from an IP range trying to add POV regarding the medal table, in particular about how a few NOCs are treating mixed-NOCs medals, against prior Wikipedia consensus (see above and also Talk:2010 Summer Youth Olympics medal table/Archive 1). How one or two NOCs address the mixed medal issue doesn't have anything to do with and should not override Wikipedia consensus, and therefore this information - especially in its current form - does not deserve a mention. After all, it's already been made clear that this is an unofficial medal table; the most recent claim that the IOC doesn't recognise the mixed medals is ridiculous as the IOC doesn't even recognise the existence of a medal table. So in this context, I'd say the line isn't notable enough to consider mentioning. If there's a serious controversy over NOCs claiming mixed medals then that can go into its own controversy section. Strange Passerby (talk) 06:00, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- I agree. The IP should be invited to discuss the issue here; if he or she does not do so, the changes that lack consensus and are unreferenced should be reverted. — Cheers, JackLee –talk– 09:21, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- I checked three of the references provided in the reverted edits. Canada completely disowns the medal as they have 13 including mixed-NOCS; Great Britain writes that "[t]eam GB's 39 athletes have won 13 medals", and also marks the mixed-NOCs events with an asterisk; and finally Australia seem to claim the medals as their own. From these it can be concluded that the various NOCs do not consistently deal with this. By the way, is anyone watching the medal tables on the "Sport at the 2010 summer youth olympics pages"; I think mixed-NOCs are absent from the tennis medal table. I participated in the debate on the medal table talk page as a number of IPs starting with "85.167.", but it seems to have jumped much farther now. 88.88.162.109 (talk) 10:53, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for doing the dirty work, so to speak; I'm aware Italy claims their mixed-medals but many others, including Britain, do not; if any such mention is to be added it certainly shouldn't be under "medal table" but more likely a section of its own, presenting both sides of the argument. The main point being that this supposed issue has nothing to do with our own unofficial medal table. Strange Passerby (talk) 11:09, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- I checked three of the references provided in the reverted edits. Canada completely disowns the medal as they have 13 including mixed-NOCS; Great Britain writes that "[t]eam GB's 39 athletes have won 13 medals", and also marks the mixed-NOCs events with an asterisk; and finally Australia seem to claim the medals as their own. From these it can be concluded that the various NOCs do not consistently deal with this. By the way, is anyone watching the medal tables on the "Sport at the 2010 summer youth olympics pages"; I think mixed-NOCs are absent from the tennis medal table. I participated in the debate on the medal table talk page as a number of IPs starting with "85.167.", but it seems to have jumped much farther now. 88.88.162.109 (talk) 10:53, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
How come the US doesn't show up in this table? By my count, they have at least 25 medals, but are not included... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.90.43.162 (talk) 16:36, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Consider this source
[edit]I happened to come across this source, Record-Breaking Youngsters (published by SYOGOC), quite a while ago. It seems to be of some usefulness to the article. The viewpoints particularly are valuable. Not sure what to do with it, since I'm busy with other stuff, but I'll leave it for editors' consideration. Cheers, ANGCHENRUI Talk♨ 15:01, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
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